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作者: 拾實什習窄炸集    時間: 17-2-2008 08:16     標題: 七分努力, 三分運氣

請問有沒有男仕認同上述句話口呢 ?

我就不認同了, becuase 三分運氣就會造成好大的不同.

三分運氣足以改變七分力的成果.

 

 


作者: kitsir935    時間: 17-2-2008 11:41

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原帖由 拾實什習窄炸集 於 17-2-2008 08:16 發表 請問有沒有男仕認同上述句話口呢 ? 我就不認同了, becuase 三分運氣就會造成好大的不同. 三分運氣足以改變七分力的成果.    

 

拾兄好似有D經歷咁播? 願聞其詳!


作者: 拾實什習窄炸集    時間: 17-2-2008 11:53

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原帖由 kitsir935 於 17-2-2008 11:41 發表   拾兄好似有D經歷咁播? 願聞其詳!
I have such kind of experience in the past, but very complicate to say in English. One I hope I can have a Chinese Windows system. But anyway let me gave you simple example:

 

 

    Twain Brothers came from the same parent:

     Boy A:  Didn't study hard in the school time, but end up in Hollywood and make a lot of money each year.

 

     Boy B:  Study very hard and get a Master degree finally, but he was kill by a car accident in a minute.

 

 

     Now can you tell me which one is important:  努力 or 運氣  ?


作者: kitsir935    時間: 17-2-2008 12:08

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原帖由 拾實什習窄炸集 於 17-2-2008 11:53 發表 I have such kind of experience in the past, but very complicate to say in English. One I hope I can have a Chinese Windows system. But anyway let me gave you simple example:     &n ...

 

或者我都分享朋友的一個經歷:年前朋友身体有事入院,在等報告出的時候留院,醫生說他可能有癌症,並不樂觀,他剛升職,要結婚,他常問我:「為甚麼會是他?」結果報告出了只是虛驚一場,我接佢出院時,護士長黑色幽默:「一D都唔恭喜你!」我同朋友都愕言:為甚麼她這麼黑心?其後她冷冷地道:「因你有排捱世界!」


作者: 拾實什習窄炸集    時間: 17-2-2008 12:27

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原帖由 kitsir935 於 17-2-2008 12:08 發表   或者我都分享朋友的一個經歷:年前朋友身体有事入院,在等報告出的時候留院,醫生說他可能有癌症,並不樂觀,他剛升職,要結婚,他常問我:「為甚麼會是他?」結果報告出了只是虛驚一場,我接佢出院 ...
I don't know what to say ...but 好奇怪...好運的後面會是bad luck, but bad luck 的後面不一定是好運 
作者: kitsir935    時間: 17-2-2008 13:44

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原帖由 拾實什習窄炸集 於 17-2-2008 12:27 發表 I don't know what to say ...but 好奇怪...好運的後面會是bad luck, but bad luck 的後面不一定是好運 

 

總括來說好唔好運是視乎你的著眼點,如你的例子:BoyA可能係賺好多錢,但可能無晒自己的私隱。BoyB可能好慘,讀飽書就死左,但可能唔會再有惡運,因最惡果個運已經遇左。運氣尼樣o野好多人都好好,當你羨慕緊別人的時候,可能你有的得著他是無的呢?所謂:「人比人,比死人!」Good Luck Brother!


作者: ar_woo    時間: 17-2-2008 14:50

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原帖由 拾實什習窄炸集 於 17-2-2008 08:16 發表 請問有沒有男仕認同上述句話口呢 ? 我就不認同了, becuase 三分運氣就會造成好大的不同. 三分運氣足以改變七分力的成果.    

 

Another interpretation of this is that only about 20% of the things you do are really important, and they determine 80% of what you get in life. (This is also know as the 80-20 rule)


作者: 999    時間: 17-2-2008 16:43

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原帖由 ar_woo 於 17-2-2008 14:50 發表   Another interpretation of this is that only about 20% of the things you do are really important, and they determine 80% of what you get in life. (This is also know as the 80-20 rule)

ar_woo兄是讀admin.的?我們傳统的雙門雪櫃,雪格同冷藏的比例,就是用20-80%rule!

當然還有Do the thing right 更要 do the right thing.

work hard 之外更要 work smart!

.....呢D方法都係人為,但有D野人是無法完全掌握的.


作者: ar_woo    時間: 17-2-2008 16:54

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原帖由 999 於 17-2-2008 16:43 發表 ar_woo兄是讀admin.的?我們傳统的雙門雪櫃,雪格同冷藏的比例,就是用20-80%rule! 當然還有Do the thing right 更要 do the right thing. work hard 之外更要 work smart! .....呢D方法都係人為 ...

 

999兄, 我不是讀admin.的...... 只是在人生中那無謂的80%勞勞碌碌中, 虛度了不少歲月后, 先明白呢個道理


作者: 999    時間: 17-2-2008 19:14

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原帖由 ar_woo 於 17-2-2008 16:54 發表   999兄, 我不是讀admin.的...... 只是在人生中那無謂的80%勞勞碌碌中, 虛度了不少歲月后, 先明白呢個道理

woo兄有很大感觸!


作者: ar_woo    時間: 17-2-2008 20:01

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原帖由 999 於 17-2-2008 19:14 發表 woo兄有很大感觸!

 

少少啦...得個捱字

 

幾時整個副總統我做啫


作者: 拾實什習窄炸集    時間: 17-2-2008 20:12

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原帖由 999 於 17-2-2008 16:43 發表 ar_woo兄是讀admin.的?我們傳统的雙門雪櫃,雪格同冷藏的比例,就是用20-80%rule! 當然還有Do the thing right 更要 do the right thing. work hard 之外更要 work smart! .....呢D方法都係人為 ...
999 兄. You get my points. Sometime more you smart, more scroll you will have..because out there always something or someone more smart than you..sometime 錯有錯着 can mix up all your plan..Bottom line is there are a lot ofthing is out of our control
作者: 拾實什習窄炸集    時間: 17-2-2008 20:16

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原帖由 ar_woo 於 17-2-2008 20:01 發表   少少啦...得個捱字   幾時整個副總統我做啫
You will see more when you get married...because you are dealing with more than one person after married or having a baby..   since will get worst between Married and your kids goto u, situation will only get starting better after you retire and you kids start to work...
作者: ar_woo    時間: 17-2-2008 20:20

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原帖由 拾實什習窄炸集 於 17-2-2008 20:16 發表 You will see more when you get married...because you are dealing with more than one person after married or having a baby..   since will get worst between Married and your kids goto u, situ ...

 

I'm not married yet, and scared to hear these... so would you recommend staying single forever?


作者: 999    時間: 17-2-2008 20:27

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原帖由 ar_woo 於 17-2-2008 20:01 發表   少少啦...得個捱字   幾時整個副總統我做啫

ar_woo兄是姓胡的是嗎?不會姓'徐'吧!?


作者: inabottle    時間: 17-2-2008 20:28

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原帖由 ar_woo 於 17-2-2008 16:54 發表   999兄, 我不是讀admin.的...... 只是在人生中那無謂的80%勞勞碌碌中, 虛度了不少歲月后, 先明白呢個道理

 

但總是度過嘛......好似 '茶煲阿四' 既 麥道舞*口吻同一些年輕的小朋友說: 雖然我比你們年長, 但我好sure我有一樣野一定勝過你哋, 我知我既生命到此為止(就算到此為止 )已活了卅多年, 你哋若不珍惜, 往後有沒有能耐去到我這個年紀?

 

小樽都成日覺得虛度錯過了好多野...但時光不可以倒流, 已不能回頭 , 沒有分努力/運氣, 因為總有人說我已盡了力  or 說我未盡全力.

 

 

 

 

* 麥道舞係小樽最近喜愛既角色, 佢既對白好抵死, 例如: (分享 )

 

要氹三個男孩子瞓, 但頑皮的小朋友在麥道舞走開了又玩埋一齊, 唔願瞓...麥道舞說:

你哋係都唔瞓呀...唔夠瞓既小朋友係唔會長高, 你哋想呢世都係咁矮就咪瞓啦... ...麥道舞說完就關門... 鏡頭當然係d小朋友即刻好乖/驚?咁上床冚被入睡


作者: ar_woo    時間: 17-2-2008 20:31

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原帖由 999 於 17-2-2008 20:27 發表 ar_woo兄是姓胡的是嗎?不會姓'徐'吧!?

 

999兄何解咁問呢? 乜唔係馬英九與蕭萬長咩


作者: ar_woo    時間: 17-2-2008 20:37

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原帖由 inabottle 於 17-2-2008 20:28 發表   但總是度過嘛......好似 '茶煲阿四' 既 麥道舞*口吻同一些年輕的小朋友說: 雖然我比你們年長, 但我好sure我有一樣野一定勝過你哋, 我知我既生命到此為止(就算到此為止 )已活了卅多年, 你Ù ...

 

我諗小樽錯過的一定比ar_woo少!

 

其實ar_woo都無乜抱怨, 至少冇乜太大煩惱, 做人要惜福 


作者: Shiawase    時間: 17-2-2008 20:38

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原帖由 ar_woo 於 17-2-2008 20:31 發表   999兄何解咁問呢? 乜唔係馬英九與蕭萬長咩

 

999兄咁問 because if ar_woo last name is 徐 & is a 副總統, then he will be called 徐 副總統

 


作者: ar_woo    時間: 17-2-2008 20:42

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原帖由 Shiawase 於 17-2-2008 20:38 發表   999兄咁問 because if ar_woo last name is 徐 & is a 副總統, then he will be called 徐 副總統  

 

Oh, ic ic  My brain is so slow, I cannot become vice president   I withdraw my application, Your Excellency 999


作者: inabottle    時間: 17-2-2008 21:32

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原帖由 ar_woo 於 17-2-2008 20:37 發表   我諗小樽錯過的一定比ar_woo少!   其實ar_woo都無乜抱怨, 至少冇乜太大煩惱, 做人要惜福 

 

都計唔到既又點知呢......

 

 


作者: 999    時間: 17-2-2008 21:32

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原帖由 Shiawase 於 17-2-2008 20:38 發表   999兄咁問 because if ar_woo last name is 徐 & is a 副總統, then he will be called 徐 副總統  

哈哈!


作者: inabottle    時間: 17-2-2008 21:33

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原帖由 Shiawase 於 17-2-2008 20:38 發表   999兄咁問 because if ar_woo last name is 徐 & is a 副總統, then he will be called 徐 副總統  

 

shiawase好celia! 小樽都諗唔到...

 

要走開一陣, 轉頭見啦各位.


作者: 999    時間: 17-2-2008 21:34

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原帖由 ar_woo 於 17-2-2008 20:42 發表   Oh, ic ic  My brain is so slow, I cannot become vice president   I withdraw my application, Your Excellency 999

哈哈!趕少咋,咪認真.........


作者: 999    時間: 17-2-2008 21:47

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原帖由 inabottle 於 17-2-2008 20:28 發表   但總是度過嘛......好似 '茶煲阿四' 既 麥道舞*口吻同一些年輕的小朋友說: 雖然我比你們年長, 但我好sure我有一樣野一定勝過你哋, 我知我既生命到此為止(就算到此為止 )已活了卅多年, 你Ù ...

 

ar_woo兄及小樽,真的虛渡了嗎?還是有'今是昨非'的feel?..........畢境生命的過程就是经驗的累積!


作者: ar_woo    時間: 17-2-2008 21:50

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原帖由 inabottle 於 17-2-2008 21:32 發表   都計唔到既又點知呢......    

 

因為(我估)作為女嘅, 即使自己唔去要求/追遂D乜, 都可以會有人為妳安排/送上

 

而男嘅, 一唔積極就セ都唔會有

[ 本帖最後由 ar_woo 於 17-2-2008 21:58 編輯 ]
作者: Shiawase    時間: 17-2-2008 21:52

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原帖由 inabottle 於 17-2-2008 21:33 發表   shiawase好celia! 小樽都諗唔到...   要走開一陣, 轉頭見啦各位.

 

c u soon


作者: 拾實什習窄炸集    時間: 17-2-2008 23:14

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原帖由 ar_woo 於 17-2-2008 20:20 發表   I'm not married yet, and scared to hear these... so would you recommend staying single forever?
yes..for your own good....
作者: 拾實什習窄炸集    時間: 17-2-2008 23:16

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原帖由 ar_woo 於 17-2-2008 20:37 發表   我諗小樽錯過的一定比ar_woo少!   其實ar_woo都無乜抱怨, 至少冇乜太大煩惱, 做人要惜福 
更好的在後面...、祝大家在90歲更happy..
作者: 拾實什習窄炸集    時間: 17-2-2008 23:17

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原帖由 999 於 17-2-2008 21:47 發表   ar_woo兄及小樽,真的虛渡了嗎?還是有'今是昨非'的feel?..........畢境生命的過程就是经驗的累積!
what is 虛渡 ?
作者: 拾實什習窄炸集    時間: 17-2-2008 23:21

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原帖由 ar_woo 於 17-2-2008 21:50 發表   因為(我估)作為女嘅, 即使自己唔去要求/追遂D乜, or 都可以會有人為妳安排/送上   而男嘅, 一唔積極就セ都唔會有
that why most beautiful girls wants to enter 娛樂圈  or miss HK, 剩下的只可靠自已
作者: inabottle    時間: 19-2-2008 01:22

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原帖由 ar_woo 於 17-2-2008 21:50 發表   因為(我估)作為女嘅, 即使自己唔去要求/追遂D乜, 都可以會有人為妳安排/送上   而男嘅, 一唔積極就セ都唔會有

 

 

依家男女平等, 有時女追男都有同等待遇: 都可以會有人為你/妳安排/送上

 

 

 

 

 


作者: 拾實什習窄炸集    時間: 19-2-2008 01:57

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原帖由 inabottle 於 19-2-2008 01:22 發表     依家男女平等, 有時女追男都有同等待遇: 都可以會有人為你/妳安排/送上          
actually nothing wrong wieither single or get married.. but it is true you have to think about it seriously if you are over 35 for F or 45 for m.

 

 


作者: George    時間: 19-2-2008 09:57

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原帖由 拾實什習窄炸集 於 19-2-2008 01:57 發表 actually nothing wrong wieither single or get married.. but it is true you have to think about it seriously if you are over 35 for F or 45 for m.    

 

Brother Ten,

 

I am also married but I am not yet have any kid.  I share your feelings. As a married person and a responsible man who should  need to take care his wife, concern and love her.  Sometimes you may feel frustrated, especailly both persons are coming from different family and have different lives in growing up, the couple may have different characters but true love between couple could really resolve the much problems.  I confess that the big problem is:  how a wife/husband to maintain a good relationship with husband's/wife's family members, especially, if these members are living together with the couple.

 

I also share your view that "LUCKY" is really important in life.  However, one must looks postive and tries his best to well-equipped himself in this competitive world.  就像蜀漢後主劉禪, who had been granted the luck from the heaven to be an emperor but he had not worked hard to be a good emperor and so caused the end of 蜀漢.

 

Though life is suffering as mentioned in Budda, and people always feels frustrated in his life. I still verily believe that people must work hard and wait for the 30% lucky to come.  Unluckiy, I am a lazy guy, I only talk to work hard but is lazy to fulfil to work hard. 

 

Finally, I encourge ar_woo brother to work hard to find his true love and get marriage.    


作者: 999    時間: 19-2-2008 11:12

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原帖由 George 於 19-2-2008 09:57 發表   Brother Ten,   I am also married but I am not yet have any kid.  I share your feelings. As a married person and a responsible man who should  need to take care hi ...

Bro. George, thanks for sharing. Did you ever hear the like of fishing?

http://www.oldcake.net/viewthread.php?tid=5241&extra=page%3D1

 


作者: ar_woo    時間: 19-2-2008 11:26

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原帖由 inabottle 於 19-2-2008 01:22 發表     依家男女平等, 有時女追男都有同等待遇: 都可以會有人為你/妳安排/送上          

 

都有遇過, 但可惜全部都唔係ar_woo杯茶

 

其實始终覺得, 一個人最緊要先顧掂自己嘅事業同財政, 第時老咗, 最多咪請夠兩個私家護士照顧你, 唔好幻想有個完美伴侶嚟照顧你一切, 所謂貧賤夫妻百事哀. 所以奉勸依家D youngcakes 唔好太沉迷拍拖, 荒廢其他, 同埋D女仔應该搞清楚男嘅背景同實力/潛力, 唔好比人呃! 見過好多呢D case, 拍拖拍得好辛苦, 個男仔不停死充, 又唔肯務實去增值自己, 最後成曰因為金錢問題嗌交, "浪漫"得如此勉強, 不如唔好害人害己.

[ 本帖最後由 ar_woo 於 19-2-2008 13:52 編輯 ]
作者: ar_woo    時間: 19-2-2008 11:29

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原帖由 George 於 19-2-2008 09:57 發表   Brother Ten,   I am also married but I am not yet have any kid.  I share your feelings. As a married person and a responsible man who should  need to take care hi ...

 

Thanks bro George, I am trying but I won't expect too much. After all, none of my married friends tell me that they're happy becoz of the marriage. Too many strings attached.


作者: 拾實什習窄炸集    時間: 19-2-2008 23:29

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原帖由 ar_woo 於 19-2-2008 11:26 發表   都有遇過, 但可惜全部都唔係ar_woo杯茶   其實始终覺得, 一個人最緊要先顧掂自己嘅事業同財政, 第時老咗, 最多咪請夠兩個私家護士照顧你, 唔好幻想有個完美伴侶嚟照 ...
Anythin can have an accident, even you have a lot of kids and good spouse that doesn't mean they will be there when you need them.

1 right thing + another right thing no equal to 2 right thing, sometime it will equal to 1 big bad thing. When you have some money and think it will secure the rest of your life ??   not necessary. There are a lot of thievies out there..you know what I mean...including some professional ...they will do anything to get your money. just like in China there are many fake things..

作者: ar_woo    時間: 19-2-2008 23:39

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原帖由 拾實什習窄炸集 於 19-2-2008 23:29 發表 Anythin can have an accident, even you have a lot of kids and good spouse that doesn't mean they will be there when you need them. 1 right thing + another right thing no equal to 2 right thing, s ...

 

You mean real thieves or people that you know who act like thieves?

 

I think about this issue often and talk to my friends too. Some actually hand over their entire salary to the wife. Some do not let their wives know exactly how much they make, even after marriage. Sometimes I think it may be a good idea to get a wife who is equally wealthy as you are. ANyway, I don't think we need to treat wives as potential thieves (if that's what you meant), unless you get some really materialistic young girl from Shanghai, say. I know an uncle who lost his lifetime savings to his wife, who went to USA from CHina, then totally disappeared.

 

Oh, now I get another interpretation, maybe by "thieves" you mean the fake investment products that the US subprime issue has created  Yes they're trying to drag the whole world into this

[ 本帖最後由 ar_woo 於 19-2-2008 23:51 編輯 ]
作者: inabottle    時間: 20-2-2008 00:18

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原帖由 ar_woo 於 19-2-2008 11:26 發表   都有遇過, 但可惜全部都唔係ar_woo杯茶   其實始终覺得, 一個人最緊要先顧掂自己嘅事業同財政, 第時老咗, 最多咪請夠兩個私家護士照顧你, 唔好幻想有個完美伴侶嚟照 ...

 

當遇上那杯茶, 咪結婚囉 ... 未遇上都無辦法

 

有日搭van仔聽收音機講: 將感情儲起(同另一DJ唱反調)等The One出現......好似儲錢咁, 同時又要提醒自己咪遇上The One就失哂理智云云


作者: 拾實什習窄炸集    時間: 20-2-2008 00:27

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原帖由 ar_woo 於 19-2-2008 23:39 發表   You mean real thieves or people that you know who act like thieves?   I think about this issue often and talk to my friends too. Some actually hand over their entire salary to ...
Actually i should use the word "Steal", Steal not necessary means it is illeagl...anybody know you closely or arround you can be the person who steal something from you ...  Did your girl friend steal anything from you but never return it ? Does any brother wife hide some secret and never tell her husband ?


作者: ar_woo    時間: 20-2-2008 00:31

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原帖由 inabottle 於 20-2-2008 00:18 發表   當遇上那杯茶, 咪結婚囉 ... 未遇上都無辦法   有日搭van仔聽收音機講: 將感情儲起(同另一DJ唱反調)等The One出現......好似儲錢咁, 同時又要提醒自己咪遇上The One就失哂理智云云

 

係呀, 一切随缘, 做好自己先


作者: 拾實什習窄炸集    時間: 20-2-2008 00:34

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原帖由 ar_woo 於 20-2-2008 00:31 發表 係呀, 一切随缘, 做好自己先
i don't believe the old men and the old ladies has same problems...

作者: ar_woo    時間: 20-2-2008 00:35

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原帖由 拾實什習窄炸集 於 20-2-2008 00:27 發表 Actually i should use the word "Steal", Steal not necessary means it is illeagl...anybody know you closely or arround you can be the person who steal something from you ...  Did your girl f ...

 

Haha, my GF had another BF that I didn't know about (for some time). I guess the most she stole from me was my feelings. Frankly I didn't mind any monetary losses.... not that big a deal to me, but it's not a good feeling to have someone close betray you


作者: 拾實什習窄炸集    時間: 20-2-2008 01:12

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原帖由 ar_woo 於 20-2-2008 00:35 發表   Haha, my GF had another BF that I didn't know about (for some time). I guess the most she stole from me was my feelings. Frankly I didn't mind any monetary losses.... not that big a de ...
yes..it is a real hard feeling...

作者: George    時間: 20-2-2008 12:08

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原帖由 ar_woo 於 20-2-2008 00:35 發表   Haha, my GF had another BF that I didn't know about (for some time). I guess the most she stole from me was my feelings. Frankly I didn't mind any monetary losses.... not that big a de ...

 

ar_woo brother,

 

I agree with your view that you ought to find a girl who is your true cup of tea.

 

The worst scenario in a pair of lovers or couple is:

 

Both parties feuded with each other, such hard feelings between parties would severely hurt each other in their lives.

 

In fact, there is joy and sadness in a marriage.  One should learn to tolerate, concern and appreicate his/her spouse.  One should ever encourage (never discourage) his/her spouse in any situation.  As time goes by, one may feel the wonderful of his/her marriage.

 

Brother ar_woo, I hope to hearing you find your true cup of tea soon.  A sincere bless to you.

 

Besides that, I must make a apologise to ar_woo brother that I was busy in Lunar New Year and could not attend the oldcake dinner, I hope I can present at next gathering.  Thanks.

 

 

 

  


作者: ar_woo    時間: 20-2-2008 13:46

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原帖由 George 於 20-2-2008 12:08 發表   ar_woo brother,   I agree with your view that you ought to find a girl who is your true cup of tea.   The worst scenario in a pair of lovers or couple is:   Both ...

 

Thank you, bro George!

 

Actually many people couldn't make it to the gathering last time, no problem, I'll organize another one soon, maybe end of Feb or early Mar. Pls join us if u have time.

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作者: 拾實什習窄炸集    時間: 27-2-2008 01:03

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原帖由 ar_woo 於 17-2-2008 20:01 發表   少少啦...得個捱字   幾時整個副總統我做啫
Can you take any bullet ?    like Taiwan Felame super Vice president...




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